As I read the CDS instructions, they do not allow a qualification regarding
whether the SAT is used for admission. They ask for statistics for all who
submitted the SAT. US News in its implementation of the CDS makes it quite
clear that we are to include all international students who submit the SAT.
(See the instructions before 173 and item 179 in US News. We include SAT's
in our reports even when the student submits the TOEFL.

Don

Donald A. Gillespie, Ph.D.
Associate Vice President for Institutional Research

Fordham University
TH-215
Bronx, NY 10458

Phone: (718) 817-3191
Fax: (718) 817-3203
e-mail: gillespie@fordham.edu




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Yes. TOEFL (or some equivalent) would replace ACT/SAT as an admission
requirement.


Mark Erste
Franciscan University of Steubenville
Institutional Research Manager
1235 University Blvd
Steubenville, OH 43952

merste@franciscan.edu
Phone: 740-283-6226, x1212
Fax: 740-284-5456

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Would you suggest that SAT verbal scores (and therefore SAT combined
scores) be excluded, if the TOEFL score (or some equivalent alternative)
was used as the basis of admission for an applicant for whom English was
not their first language?




From: Mark Erste [mailto:merste@franciscan.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:28 AM
To: Common Data Set
Subject: [cds] Calculating ACT and SAT Averages for CDS



I am interested in how other schools calculate their average ACT and SAT
for the CDS. We accept either the ACT or the SAT for admission. Some
students take both tests and send both scores. If two ACT or SAT scores are
submitted, the highest score is used (we use the highest combined score and
do not split scores and take the highest verbal and math) While both scores
may meet our minimum, the higher score is the "score of record".

My specific question is, if a student has taken both tests, which score is
used in calculating their average? For instance, if a student scored a 17
on the ACT but a 1420 on the SAT would both scores be included in their
respective average or only the highest? Our admissions office argues that
the student would never be admitted with a 17 ACT, but they would be
admitted and considered for scholarship with the 1420 SAT, and, therefore,
the ACT should not be considered in the average since it was not used as a
basis for admissions. Likewise, if a student submits two SAT scores, we
would only use the highest one in our average, so is it acceptable to only
use the highest of the SAT or ACT submitted?

For those schools that use only the higher of the two in calculating their
average, which score is used when the ACT and SAT scores are "equivalent"?

Thanks,

Mark
Mark Erste
Franciscan University of Steubenville
Institutional Research Manager
1235 University Blvd
Steubenville, OH 43952
merste@franciscan.edu
Phone: 740-283-6226, x1212
Fax: 740-284-5456


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